Combine the elitism of the staunchest fan of classical music with desperation and a Hammond keyboard or synthesizer and what do you get?
Progressive rock!
Ah, prog rock, you wacky thing. The musical equivalent of an awkward night of Dungeons and Dragons with a table full of mouth-breathing cretins; the music of “nice guys” and straight up assholes who thought the best way to win over the opposite sex was by telling them how wrong they were in their musical choices — and to prove it, put on Yes’ Tales from Topographic Oceans or Relayer (or worse for the unsuspecting woman: both albums back to back!).
We are not beyond seeing the weakness and ridiculousness in the things we held [or still hold] dear to us. But come on…entire albums dedicated to a concept was going to win over only a handful of people, regardless of gender. But for those of us who “got it” new worlds opened to us. Prog rock — largely — was the realm of desperate men who thought, “If I can’t beat the crap out of the jocks, I can at least show off how intellectually superior I am to EVERYONE by my choices in music.” (Or maybe you just liked the music — it’s possible.)
If it sounds like we’re going to dedicate the next hour to slamming on prog rock and its fans, you’re wrong. Cut us, and we bleed musical synthesizer backing layers in weird time signatures, wrapped in fantasy lyrics (and so much more).
We will defend how hokey what we love was [IS!!!] until our last breath.
Yes (<— see what we did there?)…this is our tribute to the very music that kept us alive through our teen years and into adulthood (and hell, a blood that still flows through us today): prog rock!
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We kick off this episode Living in the Past, when we talk about the very first bit of prog rock we remember listening to. Then we move on to how we define prog rock…and even show our hand and reveal whether or not we find prog rock just a bit hokey or not (and why).
MUTHAFUCKIN’ SYNTHESIZERS, Y’ALL!!!
Can prog rock exist without synthesizers? Or, at the very least, we discuss just how important synthesizers are to progressive rock. Closely on the heels of the synthesizer is the concept album in its importance. We discuss not just the appeal of the concept album, but share what we feel is the ultimate concept album. (We match up on this one!)
Prog rock existed in a very tight time in popular culture — and we’d be remiss to not address the link between prog rock and the many other things that came to light during that time. So we devote time to that.
And while we define what we feel makes up prog rock, there are bands that many don’t put on their lists of progressive rock bands. We chat about those bands before coming out and telling you all what are our favorite progressive rock bands.
Face it: prog rock is trippy. We talk about the importance of drug use on the music, and then jump to whether progressive rock is largely the domain of guys — or if it crosses genders. (But come on…largely, at least, it’s a sausage fest!)
In the homestretch we discuss what we deem the ultimate prog rock album — and wrap it all up with the influence of prog rock on modern music…and even music in the future. (Because we must have waited our whole lives for this moment (X6!).)
Feel free to share your favorite prog rock moments, bands, or anything else in the comments (because if you like prog rock, we know there are few things in life more important than establishing who you are by the bands you still love…and should you feel that’s a poke at you, prog rocker-man (face it: odds are, you probably have a penis — with an exception or two of female regulars to the show!), the person writing this is listening the Jethro Tull’s “Jack in the Green” while typing this…and while [Christopher] will admit that there is a bigtime hokey factor on Songs from the Wood, he will stab you in the eye with a holly branch as he draws his last breath in defense that the album is one of the best homage’s to nature ever written..)
So yeah, pass the Cup of Crimson Wonder…and let your hair blow in the breeze!
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One more thing: in the episode, we tease a fellow podcaster named Mitch Todd about a prog rock tune he was once part of. We say “tease,” but if you replace “tease” with “secretly admire,” it’s probably more accurate. So we give you the best thing to EVER come out of the God-forsaken state, Oklahoma: Zyrian doing “Winds of BAAG.” (Down to the featured Wendy’s cup, everything about this is GLORIOUS!!!)
And if you want to hear an interview with Shawn on Mitch’s podcast, go here.
And to hear Christopher and Mitch come up with a monster on the fly, go here.
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CM Stewart says
The Moody Blues, Chicago, Boston, Jethro Tull, Yes and on… I didn’t consciously know they were labeled “progressive rock.” I thought they were just understood to be in the upper echelons of musical skill, talent, complexity, and depth. Existing as the pinnacle of musical achievement…
“Move me on to any black square…
Don’t surround yourself with yourself
Move on back two squares”
https://youtu.be/O1-GR4b_SPs
I’d say a hallmark of prog rock is it’s difficult to dance to, but then we have crossover Kate Bush with synth https://youtu.be/wp43OdtAAkM and without https://youtu.be/cU9AbSkEpzo But then again, maybe she’s one of the few people who can dance to it.
More unavoidable crossover between progressive rock and art rock and alternative rock. Björk https://youtu.be/36Srr08PN_Y
And what I call big band rock. Supertramp https://youtu.be/ZsV-rQ23bus and Rush with a prog rock definition song (the whipcrack seals the deal) https://youtu.be/WddSQVTwj_Y Pink Floyd
No doubt Pink Floyd is progressive. I’ve always found their music to be incredibly depressing. On a more uplifting note, I’d even consider some of The Beatles, Steely Dan and Donald Fagen, Todd Rundgren, Queen, and Led Zeppelin to be progressive… too many to list!
gorillamen says
There were a lot of bands I listened to that I didn’t consider prog rock at the time. I saw The Moody Blues several times, but just thought of them as classic rock. I viewed Pink Floyd that way for years as well…Jethro Tull, too. But yes, all those bands cross the line of prog rock. Supertramp…yeah, I guess I still see them as a classic rock band.
Kate Bush was something else. It was like she defied prog rock. It was…art rock? But still not accurate. Simply Kate Bush, and I viewed Bjork in a similar way. The Sugarcubes were definitely alternative to me, but Bjork’s solo stuff crossed into all kinds of cool things.
CM Stewart says
I probably posted this link in another episode, but I’m in a Trail of Dead video. https://youtu.be/26iXUFxvO7c There were maybe 25 “extras;” we had to crowd together to simulate a crowd. Don’t blink between 2:30 and 2:31, and you can see my bellybutton. XD
gorillamen says
Yes, I’ve seen it but you get all kinds of music geek cred for being in a music video. Had I charged out of a club on video, I’d probably have tripped and been trampled.
CM Stewart says
I only commented with prog rock *hits* because I don’t have have a dick! LMAO
gorillamen says
We’re not saying there were no women into prog rock, but even at shows, it was like, “Holy crap…50 rows up…is that — could it be — an actual woman into this?!”
I know there are a lot of guys today who feel that women liking there things aren’t as “pure” as their love and understanding of the things, but the girls in our neighborhood who liked video games were seen as the coolest. Had they loved Dungeons and Dragons and the deep cuts on prog rock albums, we would have all exploded!